Prof Dr Amos Kloner Interview Coming March 9

Last night I had the honor of meeting Prof Dr. Amos Kloner, who teaches at Hebrew University and was a key figure in the Israeli Antiquities Authority (Step[hen Bramer of the Seminary was with me). Kloner permitted me to interview him for 40 plus minutes and we have it all on audio.

Update: click here for the interviews with Dr. Amos Kloner and Dr. Stephen Pfann.

Once we get the technical details sorted out on how to send such large files from Israel, the interview will be posted with the 30 minute plus interview with Stephen Pfann we did the night before. These were done quite informally- one over dinner at a resturant and another in the living room of Prof Kloner. They are like conversations. So stay posted and you will have the latest. I can tell you the Kloner interview is full of things not said anywhere else. Little facts from the archaeologist who probably knows more about the nature of Second Temple period tombs in the Jerusalem area than anyone else in the world. He is currently working on a technical book in English on the Necropolis of Jerusalem that should be out by the end of the year. He showed me the page proofs last night.

Here is one quote from the interview, "Every five minutes of the documentary has something that is inaccurate."

Stay tuned for more.

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jnjwallen

March 10, 2007 at 3:30 pm

John Anklebergs and Dillon Burrohs stats.. Called in question
In the Dallas Theological Seminary website the articles written by Bock and and other..

There are some issues with these statistics and statements That will undoubtedly be challenged.
Wasn’t the oldest manuscripts we have written at a later era? Could the decipleshave been put to death publisizing the stories they compiled from lore? As far as the bodies being kept in Jerusalem; that most likely could have been for all to see; So that the Jews would not be swayed from their faith?
Below are some ideas and stats that are being left out. First off the amount of names themselves are not spectacular; but the grouping and the placement in one place is! Read on..With this and my last thought you also have to factor how many of the other names that existed at that time; (other than the ten mentioned that could have been one of the ten in the tomb); or how many other even similar groupings they found that had Mary associated with Jesus. Was it common at all to have a tomb of ten blank ossuaries to attribute Jesus to? Also the fact one said son of Jesus and the placement of the ossuaries as well. This is pretty incredible! Also the tomb was further from the rest in a cave as we wonder if those who died in this Jesus party were placed there either in hiding or for all to see in Mockery following the death and the rumors that His body was left behind. This would not have been needed to be written down and the oldest Bible New testament script only dates after this supposed era. So the tomb could have been sanctioned by the Jews for all to see right in Jerusalem. So now considering one marked the son and one Mary attributing to Jesus instead of one of the others we have even higher stats on probability. Jesus if the swooning theory applies was a carpenter ..a wall maker and could have fashioned these ossuaries especially Mary’s whom he supposedly loved; Which was a pretty fancy ossuary. The fact that women had few ossuaries in that day; it is another big stretch to say that a common wife would have such an extravagant one in that day. Do not overlook or throw this stuff out. All stats and theories must be answered and then thrown out. That is what we believers need to defend against; prepared to have an answer to everything! On the James ossuary.. Given the Petit test and measurements taken on the stolen ossuary? Mathew being a brother was in question; but what about the others? Then add in the stats on Mary and the son being linked to Jesus and Joseph being associated with the whole family. Please respond. When it was written about the False Jesuses arising that if you hear Jesus is over here or there..Do not believe them.. That could be construed as a fore warning of the deceptive intent? Or it is as it is. Peter, James, and John may have been killed by the jews for making this stuff up; they may not have died a Martyers death?
ps. Jesus was crafty.. Carpenter/ wall maker. Wasn’t the Mary attributed to Jesus ossuary a lot nicer than the rest? One more stat. Yes using the fact that there were many more men and women that are not being accounted for in these statistics raises probability but it is then again lowered given this grouping was actually produced out of what we can see. Then the fact if this is the Body of Jesus.. we can not state that He rose in spirit; because if that were true he could not have fathered a son? PSS. Jesuses ossuary was plain compared to the rest; that explains a lot. Maybe He died first and that is what they had to deal with? Or they may have been unhappy with him? Help!

bock

March 10, 2007 at 9:21 pm

Ankerberg – dlb
This is a repeat post from the previous one on Bock stat review. See my reply to it

jnjwallen

March 10, 2007 at 3:30 pm

John Anklebergs and Dillon Burrohs stats.. Called in question
In the Dallas Theological Seminary website the articles written by Bock and and other..

There are some issues with these statistics and statements That will undoubtedly be challenged.
Wasn’t the oldest manuscripts we have written at a later era? Could the decipleshave been put to death publisizing the stories they compiled from lore? As far as the bodies being kept in Jerusalem; that most likely could have been for all to see; So that the Jews would not be swayed from their faith?
Below are some ideas and stats that are being left out. First off the amount of names themselves are not spectacular; but the grouping and the placement in one place is! Read on..With this and my last thought you also have to factor how many of the other names that existed at that time; (other than the ten mentioned that could have been one of the ten in the tomb); or how many other even similar groupings they found that had Mary associated with Jesus. Was it common at all to have a tomb of ten blank ossuaries to attribute Jesus to? Also the fact one said son of Jesus and the placement of the ossuaries as well. This is pretty incredible! Also the tomb was further from the rest in a cave as we wonder if those who died in this Jesus party were placed there either in hiding or for all to see in Mockery following the death and the rumors that His body was left behind. This would not have been needed to be written down and the oldest Bible New testament script only dates after this supposed era. So the tomb could have been sanctioned by the Jews for all to see right in Jerusalem. So now considering one marked the son and one Mary attributing to Jesus instead of one of the others we have even higher stats on probability. Jesus if the swooning theory applies was a carpenter ..a wall maker and could have fashioned these ossuaries especially Mary’s whom he supposedly loved; Which was a pretty fancy ossuary. The fact that women had few ossuaries in that day; it is another big stretch to say that a common wife would have such an extravagant one in that day. Do not overlook or throw this stuff out. All stats and theories must be answered and then thrown out. That is what we believers need to defend against; prepared to have an answer to everything! On the James ossuary.. Given the Petit test and measurements taken on the stolen ossuary? Mathew being a brother was in question; but what about the others? Then add in the stats on Mary and the son being linked to Jesus and Joseph being associated with the whole family. Please respond. When it was written about the False Jesuses arising that if you hear Jesus is over here or there..Do not believe them.. That could be construed as a fore warning of the deceptive intent? Or it is as it is. Peter, James, and John may have been killed by the jews for making this stuff up; they may not have died a Martyers death?
ps. Jesus was crafty.. Carpenter/ wall maker. Wasn’t the Mary attributed to Jesus ossuary a lot nicer than the rest? One more stat. Yes using the fact that there were many more men and women that are not being accounted for in these statistics raises probability but it is then again lowered given this grouping was actually produced out of what we can see. Then the fact if this is the Body of Jesus.. we can not state that He rose in spirit; because if that were true he could not have fathered a son? PSS. Jesuses ossuary was plain compared to the rest; that explains a lot. Maybe He died first and that is what they had to deal with? Or they may have been unhappy with him? Help!
bock

March 10, 2007 at 9:21 pm

Ankerberg – dlb
This is a repeat post from the previous one on Bock stat review. See my reply to it

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