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More Stat Talk and a Few Other Points- March 5

It seems clear that one of the more fascinating elements of this discussion are the stats and how they were put together. See the recent comments sidebar below- Correspondence and new Stat Facts.

I also have recieved a paper from Charles Quarles of Louisianan College on this and other elements. Here are soem highlights.

On Mary Magdalene claim:

"One of the key elements of the statistical argument offered by the book is the assumption that “Mariamne also called Mara” is Mary Magdalene. The Jesus Family Tomb claims that the Acts of Philip refers to Mary Magdalene as Mariamne. Since our earliest extensive manuscript of the Acts of Philip is a 14th century text, the value of the testimony of the Acts of Philip is questionable at best. However, this theory that Mariamne is Mary Magdalene is not confirmed by the Acts of Philip at all but is actually the speculation of Francis Bovon. The Acts of Philip portrays Mariamne as the sister of Philip but never identifies her explicitly as Mary Magdalene. Mary is never identified as Mariamne in the New Testament or, for that matter, in any other known text.
Jacobovici and Pellegrino also argue that the name “Mara” is actually the title “master” or “lord” and identifies Mary Magdalene as a female apostle. This element of the argument involves an enormous amount of speculation based on questionable evidence. The researchers could not cite one ancient text in which Mary was designated a master or lord or in which that word “mara” was used as a synonym for “apostle.” Most importantly, the researchers are likely incorrect in their assumption that the “Mara” of the inscription was a Greek transliteration of the Aramaic word meaning “master.” In fact, “Mara” was the eighth most commonly used name among Palestinian Jewish females in the period 330 B.C. to 200 A.D. and the name was recognized by two specialists in ancient inscriptions including one of the members of the original archaeological teams to be a mere abbreviated form of the name “Martha.” Since Mariamne-Mara is clearly not Mary Magdalene, this name should not be included in the statistical analysis."

It seems clear that one of the more fascinating elements of this discussion are the stats and how they were put together. See the recent comments sidebar below- Correspondence and new Stat Facts.

I also have recieved a paper from Charles Quarles of Louisianan College on this and other elements. Here are soem highlights.

On Mary Magdalene claim:

"One of the key elements of the statistical argument offered by the book is the assumption that “Mariamne also called Mara” is Mary Magdalene. The Jesus Family Tomb claims that the Acts of Philip refers to Mary Magdalene as Mariamne. Since our earliest extensive manuscript of the Acts of Philip is a 14th century text, the value of the testimony of the Acts of Philip is questionable at best. However, this theory that Mariamne is Mary Magdalene is not confirmed by the Acts of Philip at all but is actually the speculation of Francis Bovon. The Acts of Philip portrays Mariamne as the sister of Philip but never identifies her explicitly as Mary Magdalene. Mary is never identified as Mariamne in the New Testament or, for that matter, in any other known text.
Jacobovici and Pellegrino also argue that the name “Mara” is actually the title “master” or “lord” and identifies Mary Magdalene as a female apostle. This element of the argument involves an enormous amount of speculation based on questionable evidence. The researchers could not cite one ancient text in which Mary was designated a master or lord or in which that word “mara” was used as a synonym for “apostle.” Most importantly, the researchers are likely incorrect in their assumption that the “Mara” of the inscription was a Greek transliteration of the Aramaic word meaning “master.” In fact, “Mara” was the eighth most commonly used name among Palestinian Jewish females in the period 330 B.C. to 200 A.D. and the name was recognized by two specialists in ancient inscriptions including one of the members of the original archaeological teams to be a mere abbreviated form of the name “Martha.” Since Mariamne-Mara is clearly not Mary Magdalene, this name should not be included in the statistical analysis."

On the figuring of the stats:

The most compelling argument raised by the book is that although none of the individual inscriptions is remarkable, the combination of so many names associated with Jesus is so unexpected that this must be Jesus’ family tomb. The team initially insisted that the probability of these names associated with Jesus of Nazareth all appearing in one tomb was 1 in 2.5 million (a figure later reduced to 1 in 600 due to criticism from expert statisticians). Several factors account for this calculation: a) the false assumption that Mariamne is Mary Magdalene, and b) the assumption that Jose refers to the brother of Jesus mentioned in Mark 6:3, and c) the assumption that Maria was Jesus’ mother. The probability analysis sometimes confuses the probability of finding a tomb with this particular group of names with the probability that the Jesus of Talpiot was Jesus of Nazareth.
First, as discussed above Mariamne is clearly not Mary Magdalene. Second, the possibility that this Jesus had a relative named Mary does not increase the probability that this Jesus is Jesus of Nazareth. The name Mary was the most common name for females in the period ranging from 330 B.C. to 200 A.D. The researchers claimed that 1 out of every 4 Jewish women in Palestine during the ossuary period were named Mary (I believe the correct ratio is 1 in 4.67). Consequently, 1 out of 760 (1 out of every 1,672 families based on Bauckham’s stats) Jewish men in Palestine during the period of ossuary use were named “Jesus, son of Joseph” and had a mother named Mary. However, unlike the Jesus ossuary which specifies the nature of the relationship of this Jesus to Joseph (Jesus, son of Joseph), the nature of the relationship between this Jesus and this Mary are unknown. Since this Mary could have been his mother, aunt (and he probably had several), sister (and he may have had several), sister-in-law, or close female cousin (and he probably had many), he probably had several close female relatives with the name Mary. If any Palestinian Jewish male of the period had 12 close female relatives (e.g., 1 mother, 2 aunts, 2 sisters, 2 sisters-in-law, and 5 female cousins), 3 of these close female family members were probably named Mary. Consequently, the presence of a Mary in this tomb does not increase the probability that the Jesus of the ossuary is Jesus of Nazareth at all.
Third, Jose is a shortened form of Joseph. Joseph or Jose is the second most common male Jewish name from this period. The researchers calculated that 1 out of 20 Jewish men were named Joseph or Jose (I think that 1 in 12 is more accurate). However, since this “Joseph” could have been the father (as the inscription on the Jesus ossuary implies) of the Talpiot Jesus, the Jose inscription may not affect the probability at all. Furthermore, even assuming the family tomb theory, the probability of any person having a close male relative named Jose was quite high. Let’s assume that a first-century Jewish man had 1 father, 2 uncles, 2 brothers, 4 male cousins, and 2 sons. The probability was 1 in 2 that a man had a close male relative named Joseph/Jose. If the Joseph and Jose of the ossuaries are two different people, this Jose would not be Jesus’ father and would probably not be his uncle (since parents were unlikely to give two sons such similar names). Furthermore, since the Judah inscription (Judah, son of Jesus) explicitly identified the son of this Jesus, we can assume that Jose was not his son. Thus the probability was 1 in 4 that this Jesus would have a close male relative named Jose. The probability that a Jewish man in Palestine during the ossuary period would be named Jesus, son of Joseph, and have close family members named Mary and Jose is 1 in 760 (1 in 1,432 using Bauckham’s name frequencies). The likelihood that the Jesus of the ossuary is Jesus of Nazareth though is made doubtful by one important consideration. If Jose were the brother of this Jesus (Mark 6:2), then one must explain why Jesus was identified as “son of Joseph” but Jose was not. Although I will allow that this Jose was the brother of this Yeshua for the sake of argument, I think that the lack of the “son of Joseph” description significantly decreases the probability that Yeshua and Jose were siblings.
Matthew ranks as the ninth most common name from the period. Furthermore, since even the research team recognized that it was improbable that this Matthew was Matthew the Apostle, they speculated that this Matthew must have been a first cousin of Jesus who is unmentioned in the New Testament. Obviously, the presence of this Matthew in the tomb contributes nothing to their case.
Since the probability of bearing the name Jesus, son of Joseph and having close relatives named Mary and Jose was 1 to 760 (1 in 1,432 using Bauckham’s name frequencies) and since the male population of Jerusalem during the period of ossuary use was at least 80,000, somewhere between 56-105 male Jews in Jerusalem would have met the criteria of the Talpiot tomb. Thus even if one rejected the New Testament claim that Jesus of Nazareth’s body was resurrected, the probability of this tomb containing his remains would be 1 in 56 to 1 in 105. In other words, it is 56 to 105 times more likely that this tomb housed the bones of a Jesus other than Jesus of Nazareth than that it contained the bones of the Jesus of the Gospels. Consequently, the statistical argument does not prove at all that the Jesus of the ossuary is Jesus of Nazareth. On the contrary, it is much more likely that this Jesus is another Jesus.
The probability that the Jesus of the ossuary is someone other than Jesus of Nazareth is even greater when one considers certain features of this archaeological find that do not fit descriptions of Jesus in our most ancient sources. For example, no ancient document describes Jesus as married, romantically involved with a woman, or fathering a child. The fact that one of the ossuaries bears the inscription, “Judah, son of Jesus” makes it highly unlikely that this tomb belonged to Jesus of Nazareth. This statistical analysis also does not reflect the scholarly uncertainty over whether the most important inscription actually reads “Jesus, son of Joseph.” Nor does this analysis take into account the improbability of a family that resided in Nazareth would be buried in Jerusalem! If one denies the bodily resurrection of Jesus, one would have expected the bones of Jesus to be transferred to Nazareth for interment in a family tomb there. The claim that statistical analysis proves the Jesus of the Ten Ossuaries to be the Jesus of the Gospels grossly misinterprets the archaeological and historical evidence.

Jacobovici and Pellegrino Name Frequencies
Jesus, son of Joseph Maria Jose Probability
eliminating unmatched name Mariamne 1/190 1/4 1/20 1/15,200
accounting for other possible family relations 1/190 1/1 1/4 1/760
Richard Bauckham Name Frequencies
1/358 1/1 1/4 1/1,432
Total male population of 80,000 / 760 = 105
Total male population of 80,000 /1,432 = 56
Probability that Jesus of ossuary is Jesus of Nazareth: 1 in 105 to 1 in 56 (.9 to 1.8 %)
This probability analysis does not account for negative factors that significantly diminish the probability that the Jesus of Talpiyot was Jesus of Nazareth. In combination, these negative factors may preclude the identification of the Jesus of Talpiot as Jesus of Nazareth"

On the Resurrection Theology (something I addressed on Koppel last night):

"Christians must not be deceived by the claim that they can embrace this find as the authentic tomb of the Jesus of the Gospels without compromising their faith. The authors claim that Jesus’ resurrection body was a “spiritual body” without any real connection to his physical body. Consequently, it does not really matter if his bones were buried in Jerusalem and are now deposited in an antiquities warehouse. This claim is based on a gross misunderstanding of Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 15. In 1 Corinthians 15, Paul described the resurrection body as a “spiritual body” and contrasts that body with a “natural body.” Some interpreters incorrectly assume that a spiritual body is a body composed of spirit, i.e. an immaterial body. However, the adjectives “natural” (psuchikos) and “spiritual” (pneumatikos) are used frequently in Paul’s writings and particularly in 1 Corinthians. In other contexts it is clear that they do not refer to persons or objects as either made of matter or spirit. In 1 Corinthians 2:14-15, for example, the terms refer respectively to people influenced by human drives versus people under the control of the Spirit. It is likely that Paul’s use in 1 Corinthians 15:44 is related to this earlier use. Furthermore, if Paul had wished to state that the resurrected body was made or composed of spirit, he would likely have used another adjective (pneumatinos) or equated the body with spirit. In light of this evidence, Paul described the resurrection body as a “spiritual body” because it is a body completely under the control of the Holy Spirit. The resurrection body will no longer experience the war that is presently waging between flesh and Spirit described in texts like Galatians 5:16-18. The resurrection body will be perfectly suited to the Spirit’s domination and control and will joyfully comply with his will.
In the words of my friend Craig Evans, the view of the resurrection body suggested by Jacobovici and Pellegrino confuses Easter with Halloween. The resurrected Jesus was not a mere ghost. His tomb was empty because the very body that had been laid in the tomb rose and walked out."

 

4 Comments

  • James Snapp, Jr.

    Another resource on the “Lost Tomb”
    Dear Dr. Bock,

    You have some notable observations here; I only wish they had been emphasized in the discussion with Ted Koppel. For my own thoughts on the basic points in “Lost Tomb,” including a discussion of the statistics, written before the show was broadcast (and basically moving in the same direction as your computations), I welcome you to visit http://www.curtisvillechristian.org/TombOne.html .

  • Darryl Lewis

    Thank you and great job!
    Dr. Bock, Thank you for your involvement in this issue. Are Luke 24:38-42 and John 20:27 particularly relevant to the resurrection question?
    Thanks again – we are praying for you.

  • jnjwallen

    Inaccuracies in Bock stat review.. Help Anyone?
    There are some issues with these statistics and statements That will undoubtedly be challenged.
    Wasn’t the oldest manuscripts we have written at a later era? Could the decipleshave been put to death publisizing the stories they compiled from lore? As far as the bodies being kept in Jerusalem; that most likely could have been for all to see; So that the Jews would not be swayed from their faith?
    Below are some ideas and stats that are being left out. First off the amount of names themselves are not spectacular; but the grouping and the placement in one place is! Read on..With this and my last thought you also have to factor how many of the other names that existed at that time; (other than the ten mentioned that could have been one of the ten in the tomb); or how many other even similar groupings they found that had Mary associated with Jesus. Was it common at all to have a tomb of ten blank ossuaries to attribute Jesus to? Also the fact one said son of Jesus and the placement of the ossuaries as well. This is pretty incredible! Also the tomb was further from the rest in a cave as we wonder if those who died in this Jesus party were placed there either in hiding or for all to see in Mockery following the death and the rumors that His body was left behind. This would not have been needed to be written down and the oldest Bible New testament script only dates after this supposed era. So the tomb could have been sanctioned by the Jews for all to see right in Jerusalem. So now considering one marked the son and one Mary attributing to Jesus instead of one of the others we have even higher stats on probability. Jesus if the swooning theory applies was a carpenter ..a wall maker and could have fashioned these ossuaries especially Mary’s whom he supposedly loved; Which was a pretty fancy ossuary. The fact that women had few ossuaries in that day; it is another big stretch to say that a common wife would have such an extravagant one in that day. Do not overlook or throw this stuff out. All stats and theories must be answered and then thrown out. That is what we believers need to defend against; prepared to have an answer to everything! On the James ossuary.. Given the Petit test and measurements taken on the stolen ossuary? Mathew being a brother was in question; but what about the others? Then add in the stats on Mary and the son being linked to Jesus and Joseph being associated with the whole family. Please respond. When it was written about the False Jesuses arising that if you hear Jesus is over here or there..Do not believe them.. That could be construed as a fore warning of the deceptive intent? Or it is as it is.
    ps. Jesus was crafty.. Carpenter/ wall maker. Wasn’t the Mary attributed to Jesus ossuary a lot nicer than the rest? One more stat. Yes using the fact that there were many more men and women that are not being accounted for in these statistics raises probability but it is then again lowered given this grouping was actually produced out of what we can see. Then the fact if this is the Body of Jesus.. we can not state that He rose in spirit; because if that were true he could not have fathered a son? Help!

    • bock

      Bock Stat Review – dlb
      jn’s comments/questions queries are full of inaccuracies themselves. Let me note but a few. The ten ossuaries are NOT attributed to Jesus. Only two of the ten have the name Jesus, so this is “a” Jesus. All the other “links” are assumed to be the case. On the question of how many names existed at the time. Wer have over 900 ossuaries and a data-base of names stretching across three centuries, we know that 75% of names (male and female) came from 16 names total. All of the names in the tomb consist of these names as rare names are merely nicknames for the common ones in a context where one needs to distinguish between people sharign the same name (Jose is a nickname of Joseph, Mariamne is one for Mary). The didea that Jesus fashioned this tomb is even more unlikely. Jesus was from Galilee not Jerusalem. His family’s tomb would have been located there. These are but a few of the responses to the questions you raised.